"Come out of her My people" -Jesus Christ


The Seventh Day Adventist Church is built upon one foundation, and that foundation is the 'Investigative Judgment". Their foundation doctrine is that in 1844, at the end of 2300 years, Jesus entered the Most Holy Place of heaven to begin to cleanse the heavenly Sanctuary.

“The scripture which above all others had been both the foundation and the central pillar of the advent faith was the declaration: "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Daniel 8:14.” GC 409.1

If this doctrine is proven to be false, then the SDA Church is then proven to be false. The simpliest way to prove this doctrine is an error is to show from the bible that the 70 weeks of Daniel 9, do not relate to the 2300 'days' of Daniel 8. Every Seventh Day Adventist believes there is a link between the two, they say the 'weeks' of 9, give a starting point for the 2300 days. How do I know every Adventist believes this? Because you must believe that the 2300 days expired in 1844 to be an Adventist. Thus if you prove to an Adventist that there is no link, then that person will cease to be an Adventist. So we see the stakes are very high for the SDA!

What I would like to present to day is clear biblical evidence that this link, is truly no link at all.

After Daniel had seen the vision of the ram, goat and little horn (Daniel 8:1-12), he heard how long the desolation would last, which was 2300 Evening Mornings (Daniel 8:13-14). But he didn’t know what the vision meant, who was this ram? Who was this goat? What do these horns symbolize? So God commanded Gabriel to explain the vision to Daniel.

Daniel 8:16  And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

As any reader of this prophecy will note, Gabriel did a wonderful job teaching Daniel the prophecy. He names the Ram and Goat by name (Daniel 8:20-21). He tells Daniel that Greece would be divided between four kings, and at the latter end of their empire, a descendent (a horn out of a horn) of one of these four kings will fight against God’s people, and would take away 2300 evening and morning sacrifices. What an exact prophecy! Who couldn’t understand this?

The 1844 believer says Daniel did not understand this. I will quote one.

“By the time Gabriel left, Daniel still did not understand the {vision}. This is a sad testimony for Gabriel because Gabriel had been specifically commanded to make Daniel understand the {vision}.”

What the 1844 believer says in actuality is that Gabriel disobeyed GOD, and GOD was not big enough to cause his word to be fulfilled. They say before Gabriel could finish telling Daniel about the 2300 evening and mornings, Daniel fainted; and woke up dumbfounded, not understanding the vision. Thus they attempt to establish a link to Daniel 9 by saying Gabriel had to return 12 years later to finishing explaining the vision.

So the entire link rests upon Daniel not understanding the vision.

Let’s look at the first presumption of the 1844 advocate.
Did Daniel faint before Gabriel had finished his explanation?

Daniel 8:26-27
And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

Clearly Gabriel finished his explanation in vs 26, telling Daniel to shut up, or to seal up the vision, because it is yet future. Then sometime after this, Daniel faints. The explanation was complete, and then Daniel fainted. Why didn’t Daniel faint before the completion of the vision? The prophet was sustained by the power of GOD; God wanted him to understand, and Daniel was going to understand; and my friend Daniel did understand.

The second presumption of the 1844 crowd is the way they explain verse 27.

Daniel 8:27
And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

They say; “see! Daniel didn’t understand the vision, because NONE understood it”. Again they are saying Gabriel sinned, and GOD did not have enough power to cause his word to come to pass. If they would simply search the word of GOD they would see that this verse actually proves that Daniel understood it.

We can be assured of this by looking at the term “understood”, it is the Hebrew word Biyn in the hiphil tense, and in this tense it means to “Cause to understand or to teach”. It is used in the following verses.

1 Chronicles 25:8  And they cast lots, ward against ward, as well the small as the great, the teacher <biyn> as the scholar.

2nd Chronicles 35:3  And said unto the Levites that taught (biyn) all Israel, which were holy unto the LORD, Put the holy ark in the house which Solomon the son of David king of Israel did build; it shall not be a burden upon your shoulders: serve now the LORD your God, and his people Israel,

Nehemiah 8:9  And Nehemiah, which is the Tirshatha, and Ezra the priest the scribe, and the Levites that taught (Biyn) the people, said unto all the people, This day is holy unto the LORD your God; mourn not, nor weep. For all the people wept, when they heard the words of the law.

Job 6:24  Teach me, and I will hold my tongue: and ‘cause me to understand’ {biyn) wherein I have erred.

The literal reading of the last part of Daniel 8:27 is this: “I was Appalled at the revelation but taught it not”.

Instead ‘astonished’ being dumbfounded as the 1844 advocate says, it actually means ‘appalled’, it is translated from the Hebrew word shamem in the Hithpolel stem.

The scriptures are simply saying that Daniel did not teach it. Not because he didn’t understand (a child could understand this prophecy), but because he was forbidden to do so by the Angel.

Daniel 8:26  "And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true. Therefore shut thou up the vision, for it shall be for many days."

Thus the chain is broken, the first link is destroyed. But we will not stop here, but we will also show you that the other ‘two links’ are not really links at all.


The next argument the supporters of 1844 present in arguing that Daniel 9 is connected to Daniel 8 is the following. They say there are two different words for vision used in Daniel 9. One word refers exclusively to the 2300-Day vision, the other to the 70 weeks vision. Is this so? Is one of these words only applied to the 2300-Day vision? Let us see. The two words are mar’eh (04758) and chazown (02377).

Daniel 9:21 uses the term chazown for vision. Daniel 9:23 uses mar’eh. Daniel 9:24 uses chazown. What is the difference? Mar’eh means a general revelation, through natural sight, spiritual vision or through sound. Chazown usually refers only to spiritual vision. Daniel used these words interchangeably; in fact both words are used to describe the vision of the 2300 days of Daniel 8.

Daniel 8:26  And the vision <04758 mar’eh> of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision <02377 chazown>; for it shall be for many days.

Thus neither word exclusively refers to either vision; in fact mar’eh who the 1844 believer says refers exclusively to the 2300 evening and mornings refers also to the vision given to Daniel in Chapter 10.

Daniel 10:1  In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision (Mar-eh).

There are over three different “Mar-eh” in the book of Daniel; Those who try to use this word as a link between Daniel 8 and 9 are trying to build a mountain out of a molehill, and it has no foundation. Thus the second link has snapped also.


The Seventh Day Adventists who hold to the 1844 doctrine teach that Daniel 9 provides the starting date for the 2300-day prophecy of the previous chapter. They tell us that the Angel Gabriel returned to Daniel over a decade after the ‘evening morning’ vision to make it clear to him, and thus providing the place in history to begin the 2300-day count, this is their third and final link.

Was Daniel in need of a ‘starting date’ dear reader? The vision concerning the 2300 days provides its own starting date, it begins when the sacrifices are caused to cease by the work of the Greek little horn, and we will explain this in more detail in the next chapter. But for now let’s look and see if Daniel 9’s vision of weeks, is associated with Daniel 8’s ‘morning evening’ vision.

After praying for his people concerning their captivity Daniel is visited by an Angel.

Daniel 9:21-23 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding. At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

Clearly the angel was sent as a response to Daniel’s prayer, we have the prayer before us in the previous verses of this chapter; do you see Daniel praying about the 2300-day vision? No, he is concerned with his people, and the state of the holy city Jerusalem. Yet the 1844 believer tells us that Gabriel has come to clear up in the mind of Daniel the 2300 day vision, for he wants “the vision to be clear”.

Then the question must be, what vision does he want to make clear for Daniel? Is it the vision he had had over 10 years prior which is not mentioned in his prayer, or is it the following vision that answers his prayers and explains that the city would be restored? The very next verse answers the question.

Daniel 9:24  "Seventy weeks are determined concerning thy people and concerning thy holy city to finish the transgression and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. (KJ21)

Here is the answer to his prayers, here is the vision that explains that the city would indeed be built, and the Jews would have 490 years to put an end to their sins. Yet the 1844 advocate will say this verse tells us the 490 years are “cut off” from the 2300-day prophecy. How do they come to such a conclusion? They say the word “determined” means to cut off, thus 490 years are cut off of the 2300-day prophecy.

But dear reader this is not the meaning of “determined” at all, they jump to this conclusion because the ‘strong’s concordance’ lists ‘cut off’ as one definition for the Hebrew term ‘chathak’. Yet in truth this word in this verb tense has a very plain meaning. ‘chathak’ in the Niphal tense means: to be determined, be decreed, be settled, be marked out. Notice the following translations of this verse.

Daniel 9:24  Seventy weeks have been fixed for your people and your holy town (BBE)
Daniel 9:24  Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city (JPS)
Daniel 9:24  "Seventy weeks of years are decreed concerning your people and your holy city (RSV)

Clearly this verse is not trying to tell us that these weeks were ‘CUT OFF’ from another number, but rather that GOD had determined the Jews would have 490 years to rebuild their city and to anoint the Messiah. Isn’t this the clear reading of the text? Thus the third link is broken, the chain of Adventism is prove to be a figment of Ellen White’s imagination.

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