THE DIVINITY OF JESUS CHRIST

We believe that Jesus Christ is the Divine Son of the Living GOD. Who was born before all creation from the being of the Father. He is equal to the Father in nature and substance.


There are some in 'Christendom' today, who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ; Some teach that Christ pre-existed as a created angel, others teach that the ‘impersonal’ Word, or Message from God lived inside the man named Jesus. 

Let’s read the first two verses of John and see what he tells us about the Word.

John 1:1-2  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (Divine).  The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by HIM; and without HIM was not any thing made that was made.

John tells us that this word that was with GOD in the beginning of time is not an impersonal 'message', but it is a personal being, he is called HIM. God created all things by/through this person called the WORD. Also note that John is not saying that the "WORD" was a 'god', but he was God. He has the very nature of the one he was with. As we read further, and look at other verses concerning this issue, we will see that ALL things were created through Christ Jesus. This will place the origin of Christ before all creation. If he existed before creation, then as we will see, he had to be of the Substance of GOD, since the Substance of GOD was the only substance in existence before creation. Truly Christ is of the same nature and substance of his Father. As any human possesses the same nature of his parents, and is from their substance.

Why is this person called the WORD? The word reveals the thoughts of ones heart. JESUS reveals the heart of the Father to us. He has always done that. He is the visible image, of the invisible God.

How does Paul say everything has come into existence?

1st Corinthians 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.


The bible teaches the Father is the source of all things, all things are OF him, and it teaches that Jesus is the channel, through which all things were made.


                                          
WHEN WAS CHRIST BEGOTTEN?

Colossians 1:15-16   Who is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Here Jesus is declared the Firstborn of every creature. What does this phrase mean? Firstborn is translated from the Greek word prototokos, and it simply means: first-born --first begotten. 

Thus we see in these verses that Paul is telling us that Christ was ‘Begotten First or Born Before all creation’, because all of creation was created by God through Christ (Ephesians 3:9).

This is also the explanation given to us concerning this verse in the Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon: “Christ is called, firstborn of all creation, who came into being through God prior to the entire universe of created things”. 

Wigram’s Greek Lexicon tells us the following: “Or it may be; born before all creation”.

Jamieson, Faussett and Brown Bible Commentary has this to add: “ Translate, "Begotten (literally, 'born') before every creature," as the context shows, which gives the reason why He is so designated. "For," &c. (Col_1:16-17) [TRENCH].

Matthew Henry’s Commentary states the following: “He was born or begotten before all the creation, before any creature was made;”

15  Who is the image of the unseen God coming into existence before all living things; (BBE)

15  Now Christ is the visible expression of the invisible God. He was born before creation began, (PHIL)


Was Jesus begotten before he came to the earth? 1st John 4:9  In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Now I want us to “THINK” a little, God tells us to come and reason with him. The bible teaches that Christ existed with the Father before all creation, and was actually the channel by which God created all things.

This means that Christ is not a “Creature”, because he pre-existed all creation! Now a “Creature” is something whose substance was brought forth from NOTHING. Humans are creatures because we are made of dirt, and dirt was created from nothing. Everything we see in this world is a part of creation.

Now Christ isn’t a creature, he wasn’t brought forth from nothing, so where did he come from? The bible clearly teaches that he was begotten before creation; so where did he come from?

There is but one place he could come from, and that is the substance of GOD. He was begotten from GOD before all creation. As Children are brought forth from the substance of their parents, Christ was brought forth from the substance of his Father.

For example when my wife gave birth to my daughter, she didn’t give birth to a ‘foreign’ substance; Stacy was made up of the same material as her Mother. They were both of the same flesh and bone. When God brought forth his Son from his bosom, he had to be of the same substance as his Father.

                                      
THE DIVINE NATURE OF CHRIST

Now let’s read John 1:1 again: John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (Divine).

Now here John isn’t telling us that the Word was the same person as “The God” he was with; and he is not saying that the Word was ‘a god’, as in some sort of Ruler, or mighty man; but John is telling us that the WORD, the pre-existent Son, had the very nature of GOD. He is truly Divine or God by nature.

The bible teaches ever so clearly that Jesus Christ pre-existed as the Divine Son of GOD, and shared in the glory and riches of GOD, but he emptied himself of this glory, and became a man, the poorest of the poor.

Philippians 2:5-8  Let the same disposition be in you which was in Christ Jesus. Although from the beginning He had the nature of God He did not reckon His equality with God a treasure to be tightly grasped. Nay, He stripped Himself of His glory, and took on Him the nature of a bondservant by becoming a man like other men.  And being recognized as truly human, He humbled Himself and even stooped to die; yes, to die on a cross. (WEYMOUTH)


Again, I will use the example of my wife and daughter. When my wife gave birth to Stacy, what other nature could she possess? She couldn’t have been a kangaroo, or a whale, but Stacy had to be a human. She had to be born with the same NATURE as her parents. Like begets like.  So when GOD brought forth his Son, his Son could only have one nature, and that is the nature of GOD.

Colossians 2:9  For it is in Christ that the fulness of God’s nature dwells embodied, and in Him you are made complete, (WEYMOUTH)

When God brought forth his Son, he brought him from his Substance, and with his very nature; in fact the fullness of his nature (Colossians 1:19)!

Again I want you to look at my wife and daughter, which one of them is “more” human? They are both equally human, they have the same nature. Just because my daughter was begotten from her mother, doesn’t make her any less human than her mother.

Christ has the same nature as his Father, thus by nature he is equal to his Father.

Christ is from the very substance of GOD, and thus he is equal to his Father in substance.

                                        BUT THE FATHER IS GREATER?


John 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

If the Father and Son are equal in substance and nature, then why is the Father greater than the Son?

Now again look at my wife and Stacy. Though they are equally human, who is greater? In most ways my wife is greater. For example my wife is greater in age, in stature, in strength, and in authority. Yet they are both equally human.

For another example who is greater, men or women, the man or wife? 1 Peter 3:7  Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Though men and women share the same nature, and consist of the same substance, yet man is the stronger vessel. Man has been given authority to rule his house hold. The same example is given for Christ and GOD.

1 Corinthians 11:3  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Because Christ’s life, substance, nature, power and authority are all derived from the being of the Father, Christ recognizes the Supremacy of the Father and  honors the Father as his Lord and GOD. He submits happily to the will of the Father.

The Father isn’t greater in Substance or nature, but he is of greater authority and he is unbegotten and the source of all things.

                                                CHRIST IS FROM ETERNITY


Micah 5:2  But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Here Micah tells us that Jesus Christ’s origin (goings forth – see ‘Brown Driver and Brigg Hebrew Lexicon. The RSV, the GW and other translations) is from everlasting or eternity. .

The Septuagint literally reads:
Whose “arche {beginning} ek {is from} hemera {the days} aion {eternity}” 

As we have read Christ Jesus existed with God before all creation, and here we are told that his origin is found in eternity. Let me attempt to explain this.

When the bible speaks about ‘eternity past’, it means before temporal time. Time as we know it is temporal, it is all based upon the physical attributes of creation. We base our years on the circuit the earth takes around the sun. We base our 24 hour days on the rotation of the earth. The months are based on the moon. Temporal time began at creation.

Christ was born before temporal time, and thus his ‘origin’ is from eternity.

                                      THE ETERNAL, BEGOTTEN  SON


Why are all men subject to death? 1st Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

When Adam sinned, and became subject to death, all of his posterity, all that would spring from his loins would also be subject to death; because all of mankind was virtually in his loins.

Where was Levi before he was born?

Hebrews 7:9-10
And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.  For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

Levi, did not exist as a distinct visible person then, but he did exist virtually in the loins of his grand parent. Genetically all mankind existed in Adam, as Levi existed in Abraham.

What is Christ called in 1 Corinthians 1:24? But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God

Here Christ is called the Wisdom of GOD; Wisdom originates in the heart (mind). God’s wisdom originates in his heart also.

In other places Jesus is called the WORD of GOD.. A person's Word is his thoughts/wisdom revealed. The bible teaches that Christ the Word, is the revealed Wisdom of GOD.

I think this is what the John alludes to in John 1:18 and 16:27. Christ existed in the heart of GOD as Wisdom, and when GOD spoke or made Wisdom audible, Wisdom became the Word, the only begotten Son of GOD.

While studying some of the writings of the pre-nicean church "fathers" I noticed that they repeatedly quoted the following verses to prove that Christ was indeed begotten. The true meaning of these verses are almost lost today because of the sloppy modern translations.

PSALMS 45:1-6 (LXX) For the end, for alternate strains by the sons of Core; for instruction, a Song concerning the beloved. My heart has uttered an excellent word (logos):

Who is God’s beloved? He said Jesus was his “Beloved Son”. Jesus is also called the Logos (Word) in John 1:1. Isn't it an awesome thought to think that Jesus existed in the heart of GOD as his 'wisdom', and before creation he was made audible and thus begotten, as a true Son, not a sound without substance; but a true being, with his own intellect! The next few verses of this Psalm clears up any question concerning who the speaker has in mind (See Psalms 45:2-5), the beloved Logos is Jesus.

Another passage of scriptures that was used very widely by the early Christian Church to teach that Jesus is truly the Divine and only begotten Son of GOD is Proverbs chapter eight where we read:

Proverbs 8:22-31 ¶ The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up (anointed/Christ) from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth (Begotten/Born); when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth (Begotten/Born): While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:   Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

Here again, Christ is identified with Wisdom. As Paul said, He is the “Wisdom of GOD” (1st Corinthians 1:24,30).

L. Martin in his books
“100 and more mysteries about the trinity”, explains the eternity of Christ this way:

“It is a fact that a person may exist and yet have no conscious awareness or any visible appearance. This is true of all human beings who pre-existed genetically in their immediate parents and even in Adam just as Levi pre-existed in Abraham (Heb. 7:9).... This raises the question: couldn’t it be possible that in some mysterious sense beyond the comprehension of finite human beings, Christ pre-existed as a Person immanent within the Father’s bosom and was subsequently begotten as the mono-genes? The Apostolic Fathers, who lived nearest to the New Testament writers, who knew them and heard them speak, saw no tension in the paradox of the eternity of Christ and the fact that He was the literal begotten Son of God the Father. They simply believed that Christ preexisted as the [Wisdom] of the Father who was made audible (begotten) as the Word, an independent [person] without leaving the Father empty of His mind.  This was the explanation widely held by those who lived in a period when the church received a glowing commendation from the Savior (Rev. 2:9); a period when the church was not torn by unending theological controversies, divisions, wars and deceptious schemes.”

For another example with my wife and daughter. For 9 months my wife carried Stacy in her womb. Was Stacy a person while she was in her womb? Yes, she definitely was. Yet she didn’t become a distinct/visible person until she was born. In the same way Christ existed in the heart of GOD as Wisdom from all eternity; and was begotten as the Word before all creation.

Also we must confess, that if the Son existed within the heart of GOD as Wisdom as the scriptures teach and as the early church preached, then Christ is eternal because God has never been without wisdom. Christ was always in his Father, And then when God spoke, the Wisdom became the Word and the Son was born, before all Creation.

So we see why it is biblical to believe:
The Son is of the Substance of the Father, and has the nature of the Father. Thus is equal in person to the Father. Though the Father is greater in power and authority.
The Son though begotten from the Father has existed with the Father from eternity.



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